FC Dallas News Update 2/8
by Daniel Robertson on Feb 8, 2012 12:50 AM CST
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Not a whole heck of a lot of articles about FCD with them being gone for the last week, but tons of stuff to discuss from around the league and hey that can be fun too.
The big news swirling around this area of the country is the news of Houston Dynamo backup goalkeeper Tyler Deric was arrested and charged with assaulting a police officer on Sunday night. According to the report, Deric and Dynamo draft pick Warren Creavalle were among a group that became incensed when denied entry supposedly because of African American members of their group. It's obviously a sticky situation, but regardless of any validity of the charges, a player with a history of alcohol problems has no business trying to get into a bar after hours during the pre-season. Jose Ortiz has the other side of the story which is certainly worth reading. The Houston Dynamo released the following statement:
"The Houston Dynamo organization is aware of the recent matter involving Tyler Deric. We take these issues extremely seriously. This is an ongoing legal matter, so we will reserve further comment at this time. We will continue to monitor the developments closely."
The Western Conference just got a whole lot tougher as Brazilian midfielder Juninho is returning to LA. I was skeptical of the Galaxy's chances at MLS domination without Juninho, the engine that really made that team go last season, but now I think it's pretty fair to say everyone is playing for second in the Supporter's Shield race. MLS Cup is a whole different animal though...
"We want to keep as many of the players together from last year, and getting Juni back is a big thing for us," Beckham told reporters.
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Speaking of Los Angeles, they got destroyed by Portland yesterday which is always fun...and hey there's some MLS highlights!
FC Dallas has always forbid their players from playing high school soccer and now the other local academies are following suit. Some are unhappy about it and the Dallas Morning News has a nice article on the situation.
Bobby Warshaw checked in from Mexico for a hilarious must read article
Hartman travels with an XBox on every road trip. Him and Seitz "kill noobs" as often as they can. They once made a rookie switch rooms because the TV and couch setup was better for gaming. It's important to have the right size screen and the proper distance from the TV, you know.
Finally, the US Women trained in Frisco for the first time yesterday and Studio 90 has all the video
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Could someone summarize the high school soccer story
I’m not a DMN subscriber, so I couldn’t get more than the first sentence of the story. Can anyone write out a few basic point made by the article?
Generally, I’d want young players to play much less youth club and HS soccer, with it’s win-first approach and soccer-by-the-numbers training. Instead let them swing between the extremes of expert instructors that teach them the basics, and lots of unstructured play where they can have free reign to develop a creative style of their own.
www.bigdsoccer.com
sigh...
posting another vote for the article highlights please… subscriptions are lame for news.
by Timothy Winning Voyles on Feb 8, 2012 12:26 PM CST reply actions
Sorry
I save the articles that I read for later posting and when I saved that one it was available to everyone. I don’t have a subscription so can’t post.
Basically the article says the same things that happened when FCD told their players to not play high school is happening with the other teams. Serious players play academy, not high school and the traditional old fogies are mad about it.
www.bigdsoccer.com
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by Daniel Robertson on Feb 8, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
?
I can understand that HS soccer is not on the same level as academy but is it so bad that scouts aren’t even watching HS games anymore? Not sure about now, but HS soccer has been a great way to jump on college squads (at least it’s how I went to school for free…).
I just don’t get telling kids to NOT play in any situation.
by Timothy Winning Voyles on Feb 8, 2012 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
Not in my experience
I am an old fogey but our HS soccer coach was the football team’s OL coach who drew the short stick among football coaches and got stuck with the job. Looking back, I wish I would’ve played club ball throughout the year even though the HS social perks of being on the soccer team were also quite enjoyable. Hopefully the HS coaching scene has changed for the better.
Either way, NCAA coaches were going to club tournaments almost exclusively back then. One big reason is that club coaches and administration have the relationships with the universities, which is often a differentiator for a player trying to choose a club. It also makes sense from their side as it’s more bang for your travel buck and time to see teams full of prospects rather than the 1-2 prospects you may see at most HS games. In other words, all the best HS players (which are widely distributed thoroughout the metroplex and beyond) found their way onto the top club teams so you’re getting to see the best players in the whole area by scouting clubs rather than HS teams.
by jyj on Feb 8, 2012 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
Regarding high school
it’s just too much. It does not benefit a player’s development to play 4-5 games a week between club and high school.
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by Daniel Robertson on Feb 8, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
Hmmm
I guess I was lucky by chance? Our head coach at the time had played some pro ball in Bolivia, the girls coach at the time played in Bund 2 for several years. The current coach at my HS is alum and played some college ball for a bit. I’m 90% sure the current girls coach coached at Midwestern in Wichita Falls (Skip Warner) for a while (he was also the mens coach at my HS my freshman year).
9/11 guys my senior year went on to play some form of college ball. The 2 that didn’t, one went into the military and the other was and exchange student that went back to Brazil.
Is HS ball played in the spring here in Texas as it is in Oklahoma? I played club as well in OKC for a few different teams and I don’t ever recall 4-5 games a week. We maybe had 3 at most. Usually a tue and/or a thur/fri for the school and a sat game for club.
I say it’s safe to say that from my 4 years in HS our team had 25-30 guys move on to college and play. It’s odd to me that HS ball isn’t more watched…
by Timothy Winning Voyles on Feb 8, 2012 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
Correction
The u-16 and above levels do not play club games during public school season which runs from January to March. They begin to start up the club season after the playoffs start.
Most likely what is being discussed is the academy teams the clubs have. The developemental academy has its winter show chase at the beginning of the high school season and possibly plays some games through out the high school season.
The problem Oscar and FCD’s staff had was not having rested players to traing because of having them practise at both High school and Academy practise. That was understandable because FCD was paying for everything and they wanted to be able to train the players.
Ah I get some of it...
We did not attend club practice during our HS season then (94-98), which lead to our club team being crap for the first half of the summer session usually.
This was all pay for play back then too. Fact is a lot of good players, in Lawton, didn’t have the time or couldn’t afford to head to OKC or Tulsa for clubs. A town with only 3 high schools, I don’t think even now they have HS age level club ball locally. I know I hosted two kids from the school this past summer to come here and attend some camps.
Jan-Mar is a bit different as well. I just looked at their 2012 schedule and they play Feb 18-May 12 (which is how I remember it). My Jr year we made the state finals and it was played after graduation was done haha.
I can completely understand MLS teams not wanting their investment tired or injured of the kids (or parents) are financially taken care of for team expenses. At one time I played for 2 clubs at the same time, u16 and 17 just because the game schedules were different enough to be able to.
I’ve never really followed local HS soccer at all other than a couple games at TCHS.
by Timothy Winning Voyles on Feb 8, 2012 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
Dynamics are much different in north Texas than Oklahoma. The kids that are really really serious will just move to Dallas from Oklahoma to play for FCD…okwuono and Coleman
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by Daniel Robertson on Feb 8, 2012 4:40 PM CST up reply actions
academies
The military told us where to move and be serious back then lol.
Also was there no mls back then =)
Curios, which team was the first mls team to open a youth academy and when was it?
by Timothy Winning Voyles on Feb 8, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
here's a good article on academies:
Leander Schaerlaeckens traced DCU’s history with youth (they started youth teams in 2001), then brings the scope wider to discuss the league-wide development of full academies:
In 2007, MLS made it mandatory for its franchises to establish a youth development program with at least two teams and a full-time coaching staff. Youth players could come from anywhere within a 75-mile radius of the senior team’s stadium, and each youth team could carry two additional players from outside of that zone, so long as he didn’t live in another team’s market. As an added incentive, MLS offered clubs the option to sign its “homegrown” products without going through the SuperDraft.
www.bigdsoccer.com
Another interesting note from that article
Homegrown Talent
According to MLS, here are academy graduates rostered as of May 4, 2010:
Juan Agudelo (New York Red Bulls)
Tristan Bowen (Los Angeles Galaxy)
Giorgi Chirgadze (New York Red Bulls)
Tyler Deric (Houston Dynamo)
Bill Hamid (D.C. United)
Bryan Leyva (FC Dallas)
Andy Najar (D.C. United)
Francisco Navas Cobo (Houston Dynamo)
Cesar Zamora (Chivas USA)
with Agudelo, Bowen, Hamid, and Najat impressing thus far that an amazing list of first signings. None of them have hit their stride as a player, either.
www.bigdsoccer.com
ah cool
so academies were definitely after anyone my age would have been looking at. Most of us were already jr in college by then.
Even more impressive seeing that they have just fired up in 01 and only a decade later they’re widespread and producing talented players as intended.
by Timothy Winning Voyles on Feb 9, 2012 9:14 AM CST up reply actions
they really fired up in 2007
DC experimented with it in 2001, but it was very informal, and there wasn’t a process in place for players to graduate to the senior team. 2007 was the true genesis of academies.
www.bigdsoccer.com
An academy in North Texas
was always going to produce great players.
It’s amazing the infrastructure FCD has set up. We all don’t really have a huge clue just how much work has gone onto it. It’s a machine that we will be reaping the benefits of in the next decade.
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by Daniel Robertson on Feb 9, 2012 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
oh wow
I really had no idea they were so new in the league… I guess I had this perception they were always kinda there but not talked about a whole lot and the recent success brought them to the forefront.
Well for 5 year in, things are rolling very nice now! I’ve only been to a few of the clubs youth games and have been wildly impressed to see 16-18 year olds playing at the level I’ve seen. I did watch the game vs predatores and I definitely can see a bright future for MLS and FCd with these kids in the future. Ambrose was a kid who stuck out to me at a game I saw here in Frisco, and now he’s recently signed on for further time with the club.
I’ll certainly be paying more attention to the youth side of the club than I had when I first moved here and really began following MLS.
by Timothy Winning Voyles on Feb 9, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
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